erm....this thread was originally asking for peoples opinions on maintenance spanking so people were giving it. I think calling people pussies because of there opinions is also not accepting that people are different.
Of course i even share your opinion there is absolutely nothing wrong with pain and cruelty i like to use pain and i can be cruel some times, but you are saying yourself "to some extent". I think what got wrong here is the question where "spanking" stops and beating starts. And this can be really different from one person to another... For some this may be bruises for others broken legs or arms...
Yeah again right i think the important part here is how does the sub feel after it.
I am afraid you are wrong here ... although it would be good if it was the case. Some will not say anything because they think it is not right to criticize their master. Some will fear to make him mad. Some wont even feel that they crossed this line for a long time...
It doesn't even make them different ... You say that they like to do these things ... meaning they are not doing something they don't like. No problem with that
Again (at least i) am talking about things that let the slave feel bad after it is done, and not about things that are unpleasant at the moment they take place. And this is very individual.
I see the difference between a spanking and a beating in one point: control. Spanking means the master is in control of what he is doing, Beating means he just wants to inflict pain without controlling himself, and that is wrong!
erm....this thread was originally asking for peoples opinions on maintenance spanking so people were giving it. I think calling people pussies because of there opinions is also not accepting that people are different.
I love pain, and I love cruelty to some extent. That doesn't make my Dom a failure
I've read a lot about different techniques for administering punishment in a loving relationship and was wondering if these are effective in real working relationships.
I think people have just forgotten that the original post was asking opinion on a certain way of useing spanking in a relationship
For simplicity, say the amount of spanks that your sub partner would enjoy was X spanks.
If you give them, say, X + 50 spanks you can hardly call it abuse, but the slave will learn that she doesn't want that to happen again and will therefore have been successfully punished
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Just like tempered_sugar, the use of spankings as a punishment for me would be totally irrelevent because I like them much. But even a punishment involving "bad pain" would be just as ineffective. I agree with sum1 that a punishment should allow a sub to think about what he/she has done wrong. The way I see it the best punishments are the ones where you can realize what was done wrong, find ways to avoid repeating the same mistake over again & make up for what was done wrong.
Instead, perhaps something like a rule that requires them to beg to use the toilet and then denial of the toilet (while you're in a BDSM/messy safe environment) for an entire day, forcing them to use their pants (or diaper?) would be more productive. It does keep them thinking about why they are being punished.
the best punishment is just hearing the disappointment in your voice, followed by no punishment at all.